You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. The moment you have spoken a word, it is out there on tape and on every news website, forum, and who knows what. Quite often you are talking while being handed a note, being spoken to by the director, and listening to race radio at the same time as well, says Kirby. And his constant er, er, erms.. all the time were extremely irritating. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. Exactly - and if you had any insight into professional riding and experience actually being a pro like Sean Kelly or Rob Hayles - you wouldnt struggle to find commentary. Its that melting pot of information that you get on-site. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. To show no fear is the best skill of all. Im a bit annoyed at myself because I lost my temper at the time. Ive been up the Galibier. OK. And then, we wait. And its only the past year that we even get to see more than the Tour de France. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. View our media pack. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. What is the point? Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. At least he can string a sentence together and he seems to bring good comments out of Backstedt. Owned by Warner Bros. All material FarrellyAtkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. Kirby laughs. Being on the site always gives you extra material which makes the commentating so natural and energetic. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. You are as ill informed as Kirby. Join Outside+ to get complete access to exclusive content on VeloNews, training plans for road and gravel, and more. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. join Outside+. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. There is absolutely no deficit of distractions for a commentator. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. Me too. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. All rights reserved. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. His Grand National, Murray Walker shouting in the last 2 kilometres really is unbelievable. Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. So, were close to the press guys who have spoken to the riders, and they wander up during the day, and weve been in place for two hours already, and we meet with you guys. All rights reserved. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. Nah, Harmon is clued up. 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In my ear I have a producer telling me when we have interviews, drop-in features, ad breaks and cue points.. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. The races are only on GCN/Eurosport. I've also been known to drag washing machines behind the bike and throw them down embankments, along with piles of grass clippings, black bags of household rubbish and several hubcaps. London live show preview! Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. He's fine when it's all action but flounders when it's a longer stage. Joe Robinson. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. Helen Blackman (@HelenBlackman) March 24, 2019. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . If youve watched Eurosport cycling, you'll know. To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Its windowless. For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! But try explaining that to Cycling Weekly and their letters column.. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. I have - again - sent this to Eurosport (23/2/23, with 1,871 signatures - and 1,400 people taking the time to comment!). Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. At the moment I turn up to a large building that has been stripped of staff, and there are just 16 people in the building. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. He is thinking Champs Elysees. The blokes an insult to all cyclists. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. We dont want this man commentating. I am having this problem too. Kirby has the benefit of what he calls the ultimate pass the presence of his legendary co-commentator when it comes to cutting through the crowds and police lines. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. During a sprint stage, every turn is important, and sometimes Ill walk the final approach with [commentator] Sean Kelly, and there will be no need to even take notes, because hell just say, Oh, this will be shit. You can read an off-camber turn when youre standing on it, and see the attack points when youre going up and down a mountain. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. he's saving his energy. Set the scene for us. I heard him doing weightlifting once. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," Carlton Kirby tells Betway in a recent interview, one of the principal commentators for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has served in the sport since 1996. So poor . Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. Kirby tells us that Batistella is punching his handlebars in celebration. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. 2008present unless otherwise stated. You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. You have entered an incorrect email address! Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. One thing Ive always been able to do is, I believe, see a very wide picture and a lot of different movement, and call those fast and accurately. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. It is irretrievable. and clearly was totally clueless. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. "Oh! Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. They will tell you, Yes, so-and-so is looking really mentally fatigued, or, they are saying, Hes getting very aggressive in the peloton and weve had a word with the team, that is all great information. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! In the mountains, when you have say four significant peaks to climb, the day tells itself and often all you have to do is call it as it happens. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. Eurosport cant get away with this !! but the bike was nowhere to be found!" I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. American racers headed to Italy chime in. It is a free-for-all. When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. It is crazy. Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. But Mark Cavendish says no: what the track does is make you think fast, it makes you think within a very tight set of circumstances. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. Kirbys Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled, When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, Michael Matthews powers to Bretagne Classic victory, Bora-hansgrohe riders false positive raises new doubts over accuracy of COVID-19 testing, Giro dItalia, Milan-San Remo under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus, Ewan storms to victory on stage 2 of UAE Tour. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. It just stays online forever. I speak no language other than English. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. Some people take offence for the strangest reasons. Get rid. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. I often moan about Kirby myself, but I don't. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. You must log in or register to reply here. Discovery company. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. 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You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. Thanks to all who have signed. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? It's their commentators or silence. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. Ive gotten drunk on the Galibier and been evacuated off the Galibier. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. I'm not sure if they have forgotten about the rule, or if it was always just advisory. The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. Well, Ill tell you: It makes your view of the race verifiable when youre there. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). It is not general knowledge, and it should be. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. Bridport cycles. Would the football fans be subjected to him commentating on the football matches ? As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. And hes trying to improve them. Talk about what you know. He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. We have Sean Kelly, Stephen Roche, Magnus Backstedt, Dean Downing, Rob Hayles and David Harmon (who although is not the best at least it seems he is really doing some research and background checks on the riders and teams - he is clearly learning from Kelly as they sit in the box)but Kirby doesnt even do any background research. I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. For every Nicolas Roche or Steve Cummings great characters, totally locked down there are some savage bastards out there, and we love them all. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. The concern of course is how much is this going to take out of him before he begins preparations for the Olympic Games next month? Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The pictures were all over the news. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. Apologies it's in super annoying meme form (we couldn't find the originalsource) but this is too good not too share! Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. Mark is already the greatest sprinter there has ever been. Tony Martin scared everybody with his breakaway, says Etixx chief. ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. You have got to be kidding! Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. There are some other sports, like cycling, where the commentary has to be complete. When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. That is exactly what has happened now. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. Astonishingly though, a single stage of the Tour de France lasts for about more than six hours. These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! Carlton Kirby brings his True Tales of the Tour de France to Reading on Weds June 21, a little over a week before #TDF2023 , as he launches his new @BloomsburySport book, Sticky Bottle . Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport .
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