Circumstances that explained those un-commanded discharges.. Did a Sig Sauer P320 Fire On Its Own? A Police Officer - 19FortyFive Police Department, was wounded when his P320 duty gun discharged without a trigger pull while he was carrying it in a gym bag wrapped carefully with a cloth. Officer Collette was wounded in his left leg. Who knows. The Government mandated it to be made more safe to use and was. This is the only post fix tale of p320 failure I have heard that is not some form of but it just went off, I didnt do nutthin! Sigs are crap! But the reality is that the military has been using the Sig P320 for almost 5 years and they show no signs of changing. How about something more relevant. Bineau added the review is looking at so-called ancillary equipment (meaning the holster and other items) as one element of that broader investigation. The networks report didnt mention lawsuits filed by LEOs (or anyone else) against other gun makers claiming similar alleged design defects. Special Forces pulls new pistols from service after soldier - CBC Time will tell if no. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. Trying to categorically say Brand X is better than Brand Y! A too light 1911 as some use in competition or God Forbid for carry- could jump the sear if dropped. Golly didnt Sig catch he!! Everyone remembers the problems the Beretta M9 had, but it got sorted and they went on to serve over 30 years. UPDATE:We were just made aware of YouTuber BoomStick Tactical who produced this video the day before our post published. It nicely describes what has to happen in a striker-fired P320 for an un-commanded discharge to happen as the plaintiffs have claimed. in Capitalvania. Bagnell told TTAG that he believes the problem with the striker-fired P320 is an inadequate sear/striker connection (he has images he says illustrate this on his website). Anyway there was one good thing to come from those movies, The USS Vengeance. Clients such as law enforcement officers whose negligent discharges could result in their being disciplined or fired unless it can be proven that the gun was at fault. The P320 should be scrapped and SIG Sauer USA should redesign a new pistol around the striker firing mechanism instead of just retrofitting a hammer fired pistol (P250). The P320 pistol is a dog. To be sure, Ive informally asked every other owner of a Serpa holster when I meet them, whether they have ever had an ND because of the holster. Have you ever put a handgun down with your palm in front of the muzzle? Sig Sauer P220 Super Match. And people have a way of looking for ways to deflect blame for those discharges, especially when they stand to lose their job as a result. brakes, remember? L. LRRifleman . Another p320 "accidental discharge" - The Armory Life Forum On Thursday, M.D. The truth is the absolute WORST semi-autos that Sig, H&K, Walther, Beretta or Glock makes today are more reliable than the best semi-autos made 40 years ago, by far. In 1982 the G17 hit the market and in 1983 they gave 30,000 pistols to the Austrian military at cost. JTF-2 is the only unit in. They passed every state and national drop test requirement out there. By hoping Sig gets taken down for the P320, theyre actually setting up their own pet brand to be the next on the chopping block. Charlton, headquartered in Victoria, B.C., for comment on its original story, but neither responded. The fact that Shatner was doing Wrath of Kahn meet and greets at 90 years old kind of soured me. Zero in the affirmative. Sometimes you dont get what you pay for but now SIG has bragging rights. Is it? Hilton has filed a $15 million lawsuit alleging the P320 has a serious design and manufacturing flaw. It seems safe to assume that while SIG is coming up fast on the outside, GLOCK is still most likely the reigning champ in terms of the firearms most often carried by law enforcement and other government agencies. The SIG P320 has been the subject of numerous lawsuits, including one class action case, in the U.S. over injuries sustained because of accidental discharges. This reminds me of when Gretchen Carlson sued Fox News for sexual harassment and she got 20 million dollars. They have hundreds of thousands of P320s in regular service now and, despite a search, we couldnt find a rash of reports of soldiers claiming their pistols are firing on their own. It somehow moved to the hinges of the desk. SIG doesnt so you get killed by a punk with a Hi Point. These lawsuits ARE about SIG making defective weapons. It takes time for any new platform to work the kinks out. Sig Sauer Inc. has agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit over its P320 pistol, on which the Army 's Modular Handgun System is based. A holstered base P320 allegedly had a mysterious accidental discharge without pulling the trigger. Yes, its reliable, but no more so than most other major brands well known models. I call b-s on all these my gun magically went off. That said, I own multiple P320s, but all of them have the manual safety due to personal preference. SIG says ABC had intended to include some of those other claims in their reports, but after SIG informed the network of the additional information that was uncovered, those cases werent included in either of the segments. The P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program is a SIG SAUER initiative to upgrade P320 pistols at no additional cost . Period. He wanted TTAG to convey that hes pro-Second Amendment. Wow new finger grooves, crazy innovation. Detective Brittney Hilton sues Sig Sauer after she says holstered P320 LOL! Folks disagree on brands. Frankly, I think that ship is the best looking sci-fi ship design ever, with the Excelsior a very close second. The heads up testing was immediately finished the Sig was the winner. And yes, if I pulled some of those stunts, Id have my membership revoked. Before the madness SIGS were expensive. That a shirt tail or jacket cinch cord slips into a holster. Keep the phrase legal momentum in mind. The claim basically boils down to the notion that in normal, unconcerning operation, a foreign body entered the striker body. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. LOL! Second, every gun maker has made lemons in the past. The guys at the LGS saw only one broken striker but it confirmed what the manager who had the P320 go off and my thoughts. So your fanboy perjorative falls not only flat but false. They didnt have to, but did. My gun just went off! And those are exactly the kinds of plaintiffs who happen to make up the vast majority of the lawsuits filed against SIG. But as Officer Hilton says, There is no way anything could have gotten into my purseinto the trigger guard and pulled that trigger., This ABC report includes an interview with Joshua Harrison, a firearms expert hired by the network to examine the P320s design and give his opinion of its safety. Wounded by his own Holstered Sig Sauer P320, Veteran Tampa Police The one officer in the ABC story had it wrapped in a rag in his gym bag? This leads me to conclude that the problem is not the gear but the moron using it. Would you? I think in the end even if there is no mechanical defect (dont hold your breath) it will be found that the Sig is causing accidental discharges for the same reason the Glock does, because if you snag the trigger on the Sig model that does not have a manual safety (some do) the gun will accidentally fire. Manual safeties on pistols, hammer and striker fired systems were found necessary as far back as 1900. So park the Cops suck cause they aint gunfighters! bull**it. (It wasnt my gun). These cops seem pretty dang stupid if they put loaded guns in gym bags and purses with other stuff and carry them around, especially a gun that lacks manual safeties. Once word of that got out there was an avalanche of sexual harassment lawsuits against Fox news. Yes, conspiracy to defraud is a thing when ones @ss is on the line. The second accidental shooting happened after police supervisors internally raised questions about the safety of the SIG Sauer P320. On February 19, 2021, Military.com reported: A former U.S. Marine and federal agent has filed a $10 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer Inc. alleging that his holstered Sig P320 a pistol that the Army's new sidearm is based on accidentally discharged, firing a 9mm bullet into his right leg. Were not the only ones who have noticed the lawsuits. Yaaay! Its the expert who gets caught up in the routine and stops paying attention. According to Section 22.05 of the Texas Penal Code, engaging in deadly conduct with a firearm is considered a felony of the third degree. I agree that Glock is sitting on their laurels and has been for decades. It did not originally have this. What exactly did Harrison mean by legal momentum? That isnt clear, but its easy to make an educated guess. Milwaukee Police Report Issues With Sig P320's Discharging By Tom Knighton | 11:30 AM on October 30, 2021 AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast Several years ago, there was an issue discovered with the. Charlton posted to the online commercial forum Canadian Gun Nutz, describing the CBC News piece as inaccurate and promising SIG Sauer would release a statement. To give you an example of early self-propelled lawn mowers if you lost your grip on the handles the mower would not shut off and it would take off on its own right down the street all by itself. I would rather play handball with the Devil himself because if you deal with the Devil he will tell you that you agreed to lose your soul for a big box full of millions in cash. Theres still the P938 extractors snapping they refuse to acknowledge. In fact, I dont own ANY striker fired polymer pistol. There was no holster involved. They admitted their problem and fixed it. Because its flat out bull**it. The best take on this subject is by the author himself: this is about slime lawyers looking to build a national narrative and get a few wins in, so they can more easily get the next win and the next one, the next one and so on. To put it simply, they are expensive cheaply made junk. Yes, a lot of police officers only shoot when they have to for qual. If it was so bad, why did the US Marines, who had the Glock, drop it in favor of the carry sized P320, the M18? Let us look at the history of other consumer products. That is exactly why all civilized countries have Government Agencies that monitor companies that have a callus disregard for human life and are only interested in the quick buck. . OR some gorilla with more brawn than brains ignored the 40lb trigger pull they suddenly had to break the tab. Bravo. Theyve gotten tons of contracts because the gun is cheap, cheap, cheap to make. And they think hey have an actual legit lawsuit on their hands? Here is a movie that he filmed 40 years ago and he was still raking it in. Ironic that the trendsetters of yesteryear are trying to tear down the innovator of today because its Not perfected yet! and the Design isnt worked out!. The round went downrange so nobody was hurt. I have been purchasing and using Sig firearms exclusively for over 40 years. They function as commanded every time. But it also has much worse quality control on the parts in my experience owning and working on both. Nope. At least the Gorilla is still evolving while the Far Right proved to be an evolutionary dead end, one of natures mistakes. The American manufacturer of the new pistols belonging to Canadas special forces claims the soldier wounded in an accidental discharge last fall was using the wrong holster for the weapon. You arent a gunfighter, either. Have you ever noticed that big trouble usually comes in groups of 3. SIG just cannot seem to make a striker fired pistol that doesnt have issues. The drop-bang thing only happened at a very narrow event window, it was only once the Internet doom-preachers figured out that narrow window and did it over and over online did it appear to be a thing. Sig adapted and changed the pistol sufficiently to prevent even that issue.
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